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We can't keep repairing your save file if it's just going to get corrupted over and over. We need more specific reproduction steps to actually debug this. If you can figure out exactly what location or event is causing the save to get corrupted, that would give us something to go. Also, please tell us what internal resolution and video backend you're using.

Oh additionally, you're using an NKit ISO which is known to be problematic in some games due to how it rearranges data. Please try to reproduce the save corruption on a clean dump (there is a tool to convert NKit back to the original).

We'd really like to figure out what's going on here, as this issue happened a long time ago but was fixed, so it's rather concerning that it's happening again.

Techjar wrote:

We can't keep repairing your save file if it's just going to get corrupted over and over. We need more specific reproduction steps to actually debug this. If you can figure out exactly what location or event is causing the save to get corrupted, that would give us something to go. Also, please tell us what internal resolution and video backend you're using.

Of course not, I am sorry. I am running the game at 1440p with dx 12. I don't have a lot of experience with computers or emulators so I am sorry that I am not very helpful

Techjar wrote:

Oh additionally, you're using an NKit ISO which is known to be problematic in some games due to how it rearranges data. Please try to reproduce the save corruption on a clean dump (there is a tool to convert NKit back to the original).

We'd really like to figure out what's going on here, as this issue happened a long time ago but was fixed, so it's rather concerning that it's happening again.

what is the tool called?

alexander5273 wrote:

what is the tool called?

It's part of the whole NKit toolkit, a quick search on your preferred search engine should bring you to the right place to download it.

Can you also post screenshots of all of your graphics settings.

Techjar wrote:

alexander5273 wrote:

what is the tool called?

It's part of the whole NKit toolkit, a quick search on your preferred search engine should bring you to the right place to download it.

I can't figure out how to actually make it convert. Can you tell me what to do?

alexander5273 wrote:

I can't figure out how to actually make it convert. Can you tell me what to do?

I haven't used it myself. The only thing I know is that you need to run NKitProcessingApp.exe, which is the UI. The other executables are just command line. Beyond that, you'll have to figure it out yourself or by searching.

Techjar wrote:

alexander5273 wrote:

I can't figure out how to actually make it convert. Can you tell me what to do?

I haven't used it myself. The only thing I know is that you need to run NKitProcessingApp.exe, which is the UI. The other executables are just command line. Beyond that, you'll have to figure it out yourself or by searching.

I've been trying for 2 hours tonight and can't do it on my own. I am also having another issue where the game crashes 100% of the time in one environment. I have tried changing all graphics settings but to no avail. Any advice?

Please enable all the logs. I'll try to be more precise

Go into the File Bar, find "View". There should be Show Log and Show Log Configuration. You'll want both.

In the log configuration pane, you'll want to set all logs to info at this point. Then toggle all logs. You'll want to enable dumping to file since this is a crash.

In the log window, you'll be able to see the logs.

Once you go through all of that, reproduce the crash. Log file, by default will be in My Documents -> Dolphin Emulator -> Logs -> Dolphin.log.

Compress and upload that.

There is some crazy memory corruption going on here, suspiciously close to disc reads. This may very well be related to the NKit image.

To use NKit to convert the ISO back to a (hopefully) clean dump:

1. Download and extract NKit 1.4
2. Open NKitProcessingApp
3. Select "Convert to ISO" in the drop down
4. Drag the Paper Mario ISO file into the left pane
5. Click "Process"

The converted ISO will be put somewhere in the "Processed" sub-folder of wherever you extracted NKit. Load that one in Dolphin and see if the crashing and/or save corruption continues to happen.

I'd like you to do a couple other things as well.

First of all, can you please provide a screenshot of Graphics Settings > Hacks while Paper Mario TTYD is running?

After doing that, I'd like you close Paper Mario, then in Graphics > Hacks uncheck "Disable Bounding Box". After doing that, run the below .dol file in Dolphin and post a screenshot of it.

https://qimg.techjargaming.com/i/Avo19bAh/triangle.dol

You cannot load your save state as the disc is different. You need to load your last good normal save. If that means going back to an earlier part of the game then so be it, in the name of testing.

Also please be sure to do the additional things I detailed above. I also want to state that we'll be happy to repair your damaged save file once we can nail down this issue.

We had another thought that maybe some game-specific settings could be causing a problem. Go to Documents > Dolphin Emulator > GameSettings, and look for a G8ME01.ini. If it exists, please upload it here.

First of all, thanks for all your cooperation so far. :)

Seeing as the file I mentioned doesn't exist, I think it's safe to assume you don't have any broken game-specific settings. And yes, I know the window you're referring to. You could say I'm a big fan of this game. So far I haven't been able to reproduce the crash, but I suppose I can try once more playing up to that point.

As I said in an earlier message, I want you to do a special thing that will let me confirm some information: In Graphics > Hacks uncheck "Disable Bounding Box". After doing that, run the below .dol file in Dolphin and post a screenshot of it.

https://qimg.techjargaming.com/i/Avo19bAh/triangle.dol

Yep, perfect, thanks. Looks like your bounding box emulation is in fact working correctly, so we can rule that out. At the moment I'm out of things to try. I'll follow up when I have anything new, as I really want to get to the bottom of this; it's a rather concerning issue.

Techjar wrote:

Yep, perfect, thanks. Looks like your bounding box emulation is in fact working correctly, so we can rule that out. At the moment I'm out of things to try. I'll follow up when I have anything new, as I really want to get to the bottom of this; it's a rather concerning issue.

I also tried it on my laptop, while it still experienced slow down, it didn't crash. I think it's somehow hardware specific to my desktop

I doubt that. What seems more likely is there's some wacky setting in your configs.

Can you upload your Dolphin.ini and GFX.ini from Documents > Dolphin Emulator > Config?

After that, go to where your Dolphin.exe is located, and create a portable.txt file next to it. This will create a completely fresh "User" directory in that same folder, giving you default configs and everything. Set up the necessary things on that, then try to reproduce the crash again.

We have reproduced the issue. It happens 100% of the time with that dining car window reflection. Thanks. We'll continue to investigate further.

Oh yeah, what are the specs of the laptop you mentioned testing on?

This should be fixed as of 5.0-14316, so you can update your development build and grab the repaired save file, and hopefully not have any more corruption or crashing.

Techjar wrote:

This should be fixed as of 5.0-14316, so you can update your development build and grab the repaired save file, and hopefully not have any more corruption or crashing.

that's great, thank you so much. I really appreciate all the work that goes into making these game accessible to people. Thanks again and take care :)