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Try turning off 'Force 24-Bit Color' under Enhancements in the Graphics options.

Pikachu025 wrote:

Try turning off 'Force 24-Bit Color' under Enhancements in the Graphics options.

I'll double check later but I'm pretty sure toggling this setting on and off was part of the tests I did. I'll come back with a proper reply.

Pikachu025 wrote:

Try turning off 'Force 24-Bit Color' under Enhancements in the Graphics options.

So I checked and Forcing 24-Bit Colors seems like an improvement (like when I previously checked), but it's not like on my TV.

Also, thanks a lot for producing new screenshots!

Pikachu025 wrote:

I'm not sure what this means in practice.

What do you mean?

Sorry to ask here, but what is the difference between "_Tex" and "_RAM"? How do I reproduce each variation in Dolphin? Thanks!

Also, I'm not sure we can safely label Skyward Sword as a 5 stars out of 5 compatibility rating anymore, IMHO... I think I myself have been a bit too enthusiastic after the latest fix of the map. 😅

Because this doesn't look like a visual glitch and is such a minor difference, I don't think you can mark it down for that. I do think it might be worth noting that EFB2VRAM disabled (the option to do that is in Advanced if you want to mess with it) is much closer to software in colors.

I don't know how to really categorize this, though.

JMC4789 wrote:

Because this doesn't look like a visual glitch and is such a minor difference, I don't think you can mark it down for that. I do think it might be worth noting that EFB2VRAM disabled (the option to do that is in Advanced if you want to mess with it) is much closer to software in colors.

I don't know how to really categorize this, though.

Thanks for the tips and your time. (I'm Bowi, on the forum, by the way.)

That game aged poorly! 😅

Can we somehow help you with the categorization? I have no idea what is your system.

I'm sure this issue could be an interesting quirk to analyse and reproduce for someone, but this is probably not high priority. I do think it should be documented on the Wiki, or at least here in the Issue Tracker. As for the compatibility rating staying at 5/5, hey, I don't personally mind. 🙂

It's not my system, but it's hard to see a "bug" here. Just a slight rendering difference. I don't know if it's a consequence of something we're doing or and actual issue in the rendering pipeline.

Someone else might disagree but honestly it's hard to categorize this.

I had tested Skyward Sword a month ago, and probably this went unnoticed because it’s such a minor difference. Just like JMC4789 said, I agree that it’s hard to see a “bug” here.

It was me only who had given this game compatibility rating of 5 because the map issue was fixed recently.
However you or other senior members are free to change it’s compatibility rating back to 4 stars.

Jack wrote:

However you or other senior members are free to change it’s compatibility rating back to 4 stars.

Oh! 🤭 I'm definitely not a senior member. 😅

I cannot edit the wiki, yet, but I asked for permission. (I don't plan to change the compatibility rating because I don't feel like I have the legitimity.

Honestly, I just think it has to be documented just in case this could interest someone to look into it.

"Open" or "closed"; I wouldn't how to categorize this issue... What are the other options? Does it belong to "Working as intended"? I think it doesn't, but I might be wrong, considering I'm just an end-user.

Here's an update...

I received a simple lag-free (it definitely feels lag-free) Component-to-HDMI converter (no scaling) this week and tried my Wii on two different monitors. The dithering artefacts and the curtain effects are just awful in this game. There's also a lot of banding and noise in dark locations of the game, precisely the one this ticket is based on.

Consequently, it is indeed difficult to categorize the ticket as a bug. Really, playing this game on Dolphin can either help hiding the shortcomings of the Wii version or highlighting them, depending on the chosen settings.

Some people said that other Zelda games (WW and TP) share problems on the original hardware, but I have yet to play them on an LCD panel.

Does Dolphin have CRT filters? I never cared about those before.

JMC4789 wrote:

I'm going to mark this as "questionable" just so it's marked as something. I don't know if it's a bug or not, but obviously different rendering isn't great.

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Hi!

Does this new feature has to potential to address my concern: https://dolphin-emu.org/download/dev/6f4bbac528682389e34a1a4985820ee5137619c7/ ?

Thanks!

There's a chance that it could, but I wouldn't expect it to.

I'll need to create a new issue report about some kind of bright line at the top on the screen with Vulkan and at the bottom, with OpenGL (IIRC). More to come... (Development Branch, native resolution, no enhancement or hack, except for the ones in the INI file.)

pokechu22 wrote:

There's a chance that it could, but I wouldn't expect it to.

Yep. The difference between real hardware and emulation is still present.

FYI

Even with CPU Interpreter (cached) and Software Rendering, the rendering isn't identical to the real hardware. I used the same monitor, with my PC using a DVI port and my Wii using a YPbPr-to-HDMI converter. The discrepancies don't look like something caused by the analog-to-digital conversion or the cables. 🤷‍♂️

The discrepancies are not obvious, but they still are present. 😅

What a weird game with weird visuals. :P (I would be curious to see high quality videos of the Switch version because I have no idea how they dealt with DoF and everything.

Thanks, pokechu22! 😃 (I ran the screenshots in XnViewMP to compare them with my own eyes.)