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And here is the discussion about this issue : http://forum.wii-homebrew.com/board42-kreativitaet/board329-mkw-server-project-english/51720-about-banning/index7.html#post593566

So there is no way that servers know we are playing with Dolphin?

Maybe Dolphin could add something that identifies the users as Dolphin users. But what good would that do? If Dolphin was banned on your server, because of cheaters, there simply would be a Dolphin for cheaters build, without the identification.

If you are really interested in something happening, maybe ask Wimm to come to Dolphin's dev irc channel? I'm sure there's a misunderstanding, and he just stated his experiences with Dolphin, while he probably didn't test it himself.

#dolphin-dev on irc.freenode.net

PS: How do you block cheaters using a hacked Wii???

In my opinion it is not a good idea to add something to identify Dolphin. What was the idea behind my question : banning Dolphin users who don't cheat is not honest. I will try to ask Wiimm to come on Dolphin's dev irc channel.

I also don't agree with the fact that Dolphin is "slow". I can play at 60 stable FPS (100% speed) online with Dolphin with a laptop...

Well, in our server's database there are many entries with the Wii-FC "0000-0000-0000-0000", the MAC address "00:17:ab:99:99:99" or the unique console nick name "0mulm9ro". They all are from dolphin, but maybe some people use an older revision. Since which revision is this fixed?

We found over ten consoles (dolphin instances) using the same MAC, and we also found different consoles sharing a MAC, so random generation is a bad idea.

Why don't you take the MAC address of the real network adapter?

We also have much dolphin instances sharing a friend code - friend code 0000-0000-0000-0000, 9999-9999-9999-9999 and 7615-2135-5462-7182 are used very often.

I use Dolphin 4.0.2 (stable) and :

• My friend code is not 0000-0000-0000-0000, 9999-9999-9999-9999 or 7615-2135-5462-7182
• My console nickname is "dol" (default)
• My MAC address is "00:17:ab:99:99:99", yes.
  I will update my Dolphin build.

No, I do not mean the Nickname you can set in the Wii menu settings. I mean a special, only internal used nick name that gets transmitted to the server.

The problem with Dolphin is that people can randomly create new identifiers by installing a fresh copy. You can not ban Dolphin users unless you ban Dolphin in general. The problem is, whatever we do from now on is useless because the old versions of Dolphins are always still available. If new versions have a unique but unchangeable identifier so that hackers could be banned, the hacker would just use an old Dolphin version.

Cheaters in online games are hell on earth and I agree with Wiimm: banning Dolphin in general, if it is possible by any chance, is the best option.

I remember a website where stats about users playing on custom servers was available but i can't find this link again. This link could be used to see what builds of Dolphin use this strange internal nickname.

Some custom Mario Kart Wii builds have a cheat-blocking system. Like this one : http://wiki.tockdom.com/wiki/CTGP_Revolution
Why don't include this system to the wiimmfi-Patcher ? In my opinion it is far more intelligent than "Dolphin users = cheaters, we have to block them".

CTGP-R only runs through a special channel, and not every player wants to install this. We want to keep Wiimmfi as simple as the Nintendo WFC and support USB-Loaders, too.

Banning all Dolphin-Instances in general isn't that easy, too, because we have no clear way to identify a console as being dolphin. Many Dolphin users use the MAC I wrote above, but not all.

The Link you meant is either http://wiimmfi.de/stat or http://wiimmfi.de/mkw but you can neither see the internal nickname nor the dolphin revision there.

Oh, i understand. You are right, it is good to keep it simple.

So maybe the best solution will be to use the MAC address of the computer used to run Dolphin. So a cheater with Dolphin could be banned easily. And not all Dolphin users in the same time.

Thank you for the links. I just seen someone this 35000 battle points there. Funny. :)

"They all are from dolphin, but maybe some people use an older revision. Since which revision is this fixed?"

Come on people, read the responses.

"This was fixed months ago, in 4.0-1019. --> https://dolphin-emu.org/download/dev/ea34ae0a70246894268b968bff91ce2f87df35c2/"

I signed on the server earlier today from Dolphin, played full speed, and had no issues. If you guys want to ban all Dolphin users, go for it, but if Dolphin is good at being an emulator, you shouldn't be able to.

"I signed on the server earlier today from Dolphin, played full speed, and had no issues. If you guys want to ban all Dolphin users, go for it, but if Dolphin is good at being an emulator, you shouldn't be able to."

You are right. Same for me, 60 FPS and full speed. No issues.

60fps 100% full speed is NOT a guarantee to have no delay in online races. In fact, looking at the logs one can pretty much tell who is using Dolphin just because of the race delay which is almost always over 1s for Dolphin users but never less than even a high 100ms. Real Wii consoles rarely even get close to 100ms. This is cheating just because you don't have to finish a race first in MK, you can simply just finish later because your high delay will make you have the first place anyway.

That's strange because i never had the first place with Dolphin playing more than 100 Mondial races (yes, i'm not a good player).