Emulator

We need this please

Please fix this problem! We need DSP - HLE to work under Wiimote speaker. Please try to fix this problem.

Good luck convincing developers, but I doubt it. As I said HLE is for the most part totally dead, there hasn't really been any improvements in ages. Jack Frost was working on revised and more accurate code for Zelda Windwaker and the AFC decoder, which he gave up on it seems.

Developers are concentrating on improving LLE performance. LLE will likely replace HLE at some point once it's fast enough, or at least be recommended to use over HLE when it comes to audio issues that currently only exist with HLE audio. I'm awaiting developers to state why the Wiimote speaker isn't working with HLE and if it will ever work with HLE. There may be reasons or issues, that may be rather complicated or impossible to fix with HLE and that's why the Wiimote speaker isn't working. As I said until I hear feedback from a developer, I'm just throwing assumptions out there.

The reason why the Wiimote speaker does not work in HLE mode is because the code in DSP HLE is incomplete. If someone would write the code for it, it'd work.

I'd venture a guess that it's probably not impossible with HLE.

I'd say anything is possible with HLE, but the chances are very slim of doing everything exactly right all the time, with a small impact on performance.

Might as well use LLE. It's much easier to code, and at the moment, only has two actually legitimate problems:

1. Performance hit. They are working on this.
2. You need the DSP ROM files. I don't know what the deal is with this.

Crackling as well, although it's minor. Mylek did make a hack/patch that alleviates some of the crackling though. But the brief millisecond/second pauses of silence isn't an issue as I mentioned, I noticed it happens with HLE when emulation isn't full speed. Used to only be OpenAL/Xaudio2 that did this in the past but it seems that it does it now with the Dsound backend and HLE. It's just to keep the audio in sync with the video, or at least it tries the best it can but HLE issues make proper syncing impossible. I would like to hear from a developer though. Even though I think otherwise it may very well be possible, just not implemented yet. It would be nice if a developer can clarify the reason the Wiimote speaker is not currently working with HLE and if it will work with HLE in the future.

First, that is probably the most uninformative video ever. It shows you go to MediaFire, download the files then highlight them in explorer. It's not like you'd need more specific instructions or anything.

Second, don't bother posting more detailed instructions because the files are copyrighted and downloading them is therefore illegal. They shouldn't be available for download even though they are. Though, in all honesty, I think it's stupid to claim copyright on a small table of numbers.

Third, you may even have crossed the line by posting that video to begin with.

Fourth, everyone who cares enough to want to use the DSP ROM files already has them.

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Might as well use LLE. It's much easier to code, and at the moment, only has two actually legitimate problems:

1. Performance hit. They are working on this.
2. You need the DSP ROM files. I don't know what the deal is with this.
   */

I will not comment on how easy is to fix lle bugs or write jit for it, but these 2 problems are not problems at all.

LLE problems atm:

• after saturation fix is implemented in jit there are only some (not all) zelda type
  games with minor (afc) crackling (will try to make perfect rounding/ADDPAXZ and
  if that doesnt fix problems i'm out of ideas)

• reset/init via DSP_CONTROL is not perfect (games like Smugglers Run - Warzones, demo disks, etc... crash because of this)

• other problematic games, like certain Resident Evil games (unknown where problem is, but i doubt is dsp opcode related)

• dsp on thread is still not perfectly working for certain games ( i could be wrong here)

My apologies. I didn't mean to say it was extremely easy to code the LLE plugin, just easier to do it in an accurate way than it is for HLE. LLE JIT is an entirely different story, of course.

You're all doing a great job with this emulator. The improvement over the past 100 revisions has been great. Over the past 1000 revisions the difference is night and day. Comparing it to Dolphin 1.02 (pre SVN), it's like a whole different world.

Uhm, I just had wiimote sound out of my real wiimote in SMG2 with HLE...is that weird? O_o

"- other problematic games, like certain Resident Evil games (unknown where problem is, but i doubt is dsp opcode related)"

If it happens with both HLE and LLE, then it's likely some code that is shared between the two audio cores such as mixer or audio backend (Xaudio2, Dsound, OpenAL) code.

@William: Yeah, don't ask me why, though...I did fiddle around with the wiimote speaker volume slider before that, but I don't think that's the reason shrug

In Super Mario Galaxy 1 there is sound coming out from the Wiimote as well (using HLE)

Now who wants to explain how that can be? :P

Not working perfectly but it should be better in the new-ax-hle branch.

The Wiimote speaker still sounds bad and games like Fragile Dreams is very necesary for listen the tips from characters and listen special sounds for search through sound any characters.

I tried use diferente Wiimotes(White original,Black,Red in box game Mario Kart) and Toshiba BlueTooth stack,DSP HLE LLE but nothing works

Please is the only error that i detected in the emulator any works perfect even High Resolution (2560x2112) except Wiimote speaker and many games use this for add fun to the game.

Any knows this issue is retaken in other place?

This is a separate issue, please look for the open issues and you can make your comments there if you have anything to add to it.